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Very hot

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 12:22 am
by carlo222
When i played Gimrock 2 my laptop temp very hot and game crashed?
Black screen (musik on) and i restart my laptop?

Re: Very hot

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 12:42 am
by Dr.Disaster
Make sure both fan and air ducts of your laptop are absolutely clean!

Next check where the heat is produced.
LoG2 makes good use of both CPU and GPU so use GPU-Z to check your grafics card/chip and CPU-Z to check your processor temperature.

In case your GPU renders more frames then necessary (either check with Fraps or "debugInfo = true" inside "grimrock.cfg") activate vsync+tripple buffer in both Log2 options and video driver.

Re: Very hot

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:26 am
by carlo222
GPU-Z to check your grafics card/chip ??
what testet?
Cpu-Chaches-Mainboard-Memory-SPD-Graphics?

this is gpu-z.. Game -Paused
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Re: Very hot

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:33 am
by Dr.Disaster
Oops, wrong tool for the CPU; use HWMonitor instead.

Have the tools run in background or switch LoG to "Windowed" or "Borderless" mode, then check temperatures while playing.

Re: Very hot

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 2:31 am
by carlo222
Here game Paused --and played
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intel mobil core was higher,,,90 C
sony vaio was higher...80 C
game crashed..

have triple puffer activatet

Re: Very hot

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 2:45 am
by Dr.Disaster
It seems that both your CPU and GPU are overheating -> insufficient cooling

As i said at the beginning: make sure both fan and air ducts are clean!

Re: Very hot

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 2:52 am
by carlo222
ok thanks

Re: Very hot

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:01 am
by badhabit
carlo222 wrote:ok thanks
Hi Carlo222,
this is infact a known problem with the grimrock engine (going back to the first part) not really a fault of your system, take a look at this thread ("Very low performance") where multiple people report similar problems. Also, despite the euphemistic formulation of Dr.Disaster of the Log engine as "making good use of of GPU and CPU", the engine can need some help by setting everything in the graphic options to low and setting the internal frame-rate-limiter (in the grimrock.cfg) to lower FPS (or even unsupported low resolutions as 800x600) to reduce the produced heat.

Also, consider sending your problem per email to the AH support, if they got the feedback that this problem is hitting enough people, they might fix the engine faster (maybe even before the Mac port, as announced).
Good luck!

Re: Very hot

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:29 am
by Dr.Disaster
When a system is not able to keep itself cool under whatever kind of utilization the reason is always insufficient cooling.

Did you even care to check what hardware is in that laptop?
This system can call itself very lucky when it even gets 30 fps done with all LoG2 options set to "Low".

Re: Very hot

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:35 am
by badhabit
Dr.Disaster wrote:When a system is not able to keep itself cool under whatever kind of utilization the reason is always insufficient cooling.

Did you even care to check what hardware is in that laptop?
This system can call itself very lucky when it even gets 30 fps done with all LoG2 options set to "Low".
Yeah that the problem,even with low in everything even middle powered system barley achieve 30fps in the outdoor areas. Which is an unexpected behaviour for an PC game, which should produce with everything low hundreds of frames per second for even the slowest system.
The overheating of a hardware system is only the symptom of a insufficient optimized software system/engine... this should be a lesson especially former demoscene guys should be well aware of ;)