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Invulnerable poison cloud monster thingy

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:59 pm
by Vresiberba
When I returned to Forgotten River, this invulnerable poison cloud monster thingy suddenly appeared. How do I kill this thing?

Re: Invulnerable poison cloud monster thingy

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:02 pm
by The Doppelgamer
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Use either the spell Dispel which requires 1 water magic and 1 concentration (the scroll can be found in the meditation spire in the archives), the dagger found in the cemetery, or the staff found in the vault under Sleet Island (which is great if you don't have a point into water magic). Also there are a lot of threads about this topic already (like,... A LOT lol)

Re: Invulnerable poison cloud monster thingy

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:03 pm
by bleh_
There is a spell called:
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Dispel
And a weapon called:
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Etheral Blade

Re: Invulnerable poison cloud monster thingy

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 9:41 pm
by Jirodyne
Mystina Valeth wrote:Also there are a lot of threads about this topic already (like,... A LOT lol)
Well it IS the most cheap enemy in the entire game. It IS the only enemy that is restricted by damage, and it IS illogically both in reality and even in the game world. I mean think about it, it's an Air Elemental, should it should be damagable by Earth, aka poison. But it can't. And why is it the only elemental that is immune to all dmg but a single item and a single spell? Being air, I can understand Physical weapons not being able to hit it. But in almost all worlds of magic, if there is a ghost or intanglable being, MAGIC hurts it and so go MAGICAL items, such as a flaming sword, lightning sword, poison pick, and so on. But again, those don't work.

For someone who has read up on them and played a lot, they know how to kill them and prepare for them. A noobie who has never played the game before, especially one that doesn't like the Rune system so doesn't take a mage and doesn't know to go to the *blank* first for that blade, they will have no idea how to kill it. Watch some lets plays, people's logical reaction is use magic since normal physical weapons won't work. Then they try each of the elements to find that it's immune to them all. So it's unkillable. So they will come on here and ask, why is there an unkillable enemy in the game? Especially since Dispel is a WATER magic, when it shouldn't be! It should be a Concentration/balance magic. It hurts ALL elements, not just the opposite of water, aka fire.

And I have to ask that too. NONE of the other elementals are that immune. The other Elements can be hurt by everything but their own elements, why is the Air elemental just suppior? Isn't it said everywhere that the elements cancle eachother out? Using Earth magic on it should INSTANTLY cancle/kill it! or if not because of balance, be very weak to it! The Elements are meant to cancle/balance eachother out. They should all be the same thing, just using different spells and different colors. If I remember right, Fire Elementals were in Grimrock 1 and they were the very same as the Ice Elementals, just covered in Fire and red. They weren't suiciding exploding flying bombs like here.

Re: Invulnerable poison cloud monster thingy

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 9:55 pm
by itsmemario
I do not know how old you are but have you ever played "Dungeon Master" on the god old Amiga? There was a green ghost that only could be killed with a vorpal blade or a specific spell (Des Ew). Maybe its a tribute to the grandfather of that genre of game. :)

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Re: Invulnerable poison cloud monster thingy

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 9:58 pm
by Saice
Yeah LoG2 is kind of bias toward the non mage party. Air Elementals are the worst but the other ones are also a pain with out the right gear. with most of that gear Bombs are limited use and you might be out of them when you need them. Having access to elemental shields and damage is basically required for parts of the game. I say basically because you can get past them but only with either burning through a lot of healing pots or with foreknowledge and careful planing.

Also that bomb throwing trickster can be outright deadly with out the right elemental shield spells.

Re: Invulnerable poison cloud monster thingy

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 12:53 am
by Vresiberba
itsmemario wrote:I do not know how old you are but have you ever played "Dungeon Master" on the god old Amiga?
Yes, I did play that game on the Amiga, but I never finished it. My first Amiga was the A1000 which I bought in 1987 and my last Amiga, which I had to sell, unfortunately, was an absolutely flawless A4000, no scratches, no yellowing, fully equipped with a CyberVision 64/3D card installed with the famous scan doubler module. Ahh... I miss you, baby :(

Re: Invulnerable poison cloud monster thingy

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:11 am
by EvoluZion3
itsmemario wrote:I do not know how old you are but have you ever played "Dungeon Master" on the god old Amiga? There was a green ghost that only could be killed with a vorpal blade or a specific spell (Des Ew). Maybe its a tribute to the grandfather of that genre of game. :)

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DES EW - ahh that brings back some memories.
FUL YA, YA BRO ERO - etc... :)

Re: Invulnerable poison cloud monster thingy

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:35 am
by Sir Tawmis
bleh_ wrote:There is a spell called:
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Dispel
And a weapon called:
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Etheral Blade
There's also a staff that mages can use (found where the Ratlings are) that casts this spell specifically.

Re: Invulnerable poison cloud monster thingy

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:46 am
by Belligero
It's easy to avoid for the most part if you don't have a means to kill it and you don't have to kill it.

Just don't get cornered by it or you'll pretty much have to reload.