Grimrock 2 performance compared to Grimrock 1

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Re: Grimrock 2 performance compared to Grimrock 1

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Thanks for the info Dr. Disaster.

Think I will give it a try and if it doesn't work look into a graphics card as eLpusher suggests. Just don't know what kind of power supply this computer has as graphics cards take a lot of juice.

When I bought this computer I was burnt out on MMO's and thought my gaming days were done and didn't worry about a graphics card. That is until LOG1 came out.
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I'm quite sure you won't get anywhere with your current GPU. The good news is however that your CPU and ram are pretty good already. There are some cards that have a very low power consumption, so even a crap PSU wouldn't be a problem. For example the Radeon HD 7750 needs almost no power and should run even with a cheap 300w no name PSU, costs only ~$75 on Newegg and is a vast improvement over your card (just as a rough comparison, PassMark score of your card is 307 while the 7750 has 1634, that's more than 5x as fast). It is still not exactly a high end card, but for a better card you'd definitely need to check your PSU (and your wallet) first.
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Ryeath_Greystalk wrote:Hey everyone,
I was able to play LOG1 on with everything turned to low setting, and I could play most of the mods, with the exception of one or two.
I have a intel HD3200 on board graphics. The specs call for a intel HD5200 card. I tried to google the difference but it just confused me.
Is there that big a difference between the two cards that I would not be able to run LOG2?
The rest of the system is a Gateway I5 2320 with 8 GB ram.

Integrated graphics in Sandy Bridge is just a marketing trick. It's just a bit better than any Intel graphics of the past. You can watch HD movies, play a few games on low/very low settings (sometimes medium) and it is only possible to use it on Intel H67 chipset, which doesn't let you overclock your CPU, rendering i5-2500K and i7-2600k useless compared to their non-K (i.e. not unlocked) counterparts.

You have Intel Core i5-2320 3.0 GHz quad-core processor and it means there is integrated Intel HD2000 as this article shows: http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid ... UB33P-FB-R

You can compare HD2000 and HD3000 here: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/graphi ... 000_8.html it's (11 pages test, you can read it for additional info)
Here is more fun info:http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.p ... el+HD+3000

Short story: your's GPU is a little bit slow for late 2014 game and you will probably facing some issues.

Solution: H67 chipset has integrated graphics and usualy 1x PCI Express x16 2.0 connector for expansion capapbilities:
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Its a blue slot under the fan, ignore red rectangle and arrow - I only used some picture from internet to show you the motherboard.
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So you can buy discreet GPU and use it. and you can theoretically buy any GPU - but you are limited with your's 300W ATX power supply (unspecified). Read here for example: http://www.computerforum.com/205313-gra ... ub33p.html
Best and safest way is to ask gateway support for suggestion, as far I know, they are able to offer you descreet nVidia GK which fits your configuration.

My sugestion: check eBuy and buy "Radeon HD 6570":http://www.amd.com/en-gb/products/graph ... 6000/6570# it will triple your performance:
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compa ... 4&cmp[]=26 for few bugs without power supply issues. :ugeek:
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Oh right, it's indeed just an HD 2000 inside the i5 2320; looking at the Intel product page would have told me right away but i was checking GPU details instead.

Well in that case: definately get a GPU. This might also require getting a matching PSU!

If the info Leki digged up is accurate and your PSU is 300W it will not support any GPU that requires additional power connectors. Depending on the actual power consumption of your whole system it might not even support all GPU's that do not need an additional power connector because all GPU cards are allowed by specification to consume up to 75W from the slot it's seated in.

Looking at nVidia GPU's my first guess for going without a new PSU would be the GT 740. Now some manufactures like Gainward, MSI or Zotac state they have GTX 750's and GTX 750 TI's in their stock without additional power connectors so be sure to look those details up before buying. Anything above (GTX 760 and up) requires additional power.

This is a perfomance comparison of the cards i mentioned (you have to complete the link manually, it get's broken by the forum):
http://videocardbenchmark.net/compare.p ... cmp[]=2815
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If it's a budget system, definitely replace the power supply when you add a graphics card. Even if the current one is capable of supporting the power demand in theory, in practice, budget systems' power supplies are prone to failing if they're put under heavy load for more than a short time.
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I am in the same boat as OP. I am ready to pre-order because I loved the original game but I'm hesitant because I worry how well my now aging computer will handle it. I have the same video card and system memory as OP (AMD 4890 and 4GB), but a Phenom II X3 3ghz processor. Ran the old game at 60fps 1080p on high settings.

It would be really great if Almost Human could release a demo, or at least a performance test. Like you run it and it tells you your fps in a sample scene, or something like that.

From the released system specs it looks like I'll be able to run it, but I want to make sure I get at least 30 fps on high settings. After doing a bit of reading it seems like the recommended 6850 video card isn't that much faster than a 4890 (about 15%) so I guess I'll be fine?
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I have an even older setup and I already preordered it.

AMD Phenom (Agena).
GeForce GTX 660Ti.
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eLPuSHeR wrote:I have an even older setup and I already preordered it.

AMD Phenom (Agena).
GeForce GTX 660Ti.
Well a GTX 660 Ti has about three times the rendering power than a Radeon HD 4890.

copy'n'paste the link below manually to see a comparison

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http://videocardbenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=42&cmp[]=88
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I've still considering pre-ordering... but I'm starting to lean towards not doing so because I'm worried about being disappointed by the performance.

I'd like to be able to play the game on my Surface Pro 2 (with an external monitor); but the SP2 only has an Intel HD Graphics 4400, whereas the minimum specs for the game call for 5200. So my poor computer will probably struggle... I've also got an older desktop which has a 1st generation core i7 and a Radeon 4890. That does meet the minimum specs, but I'd prefer not to rely on that computer (for various reasons).

So I guess the wise thing for me to do would be to not pre-order, and wait to see what other people say about the performance when the game is out.
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Dr.Disaster wrote:
eLPuSHeR wrote:I have an even older setup and I already preordered it.

AMD Phenom (Agena).
GeForce GTX 660Ti.
Well a GTX 660 Ti has about three times the rendering power than a Radeon HD 4890.

copy'n'paste the link below manually to see a comparison

Code: Select all

http://videocardbenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=42&cmp[]=88
Thanks for the benchmark Dr. Disaster. 8-)
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