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Re: Pyramid of Xafi
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:54 am
by Hustin
Wow, that last fight was...interesting. Everyone died except my rogue. She had Greater Evade, so I gave her all the fire gear and the remaining books. She tanked her way through, immune to fire with all that gear on, dragging her three dead party members behind her
Re: Pyramid of Xafi
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:56 pm
by Soaponarope
Yikes, sounds like this should be toned down if you needed fire immunity to get through. What difficulty?
Haven't had others tell me this was overly difficult, though I wonder if some had a lot of trouble here. It's a tough area, but shouldn't be that much harder than other tough spots before it.
Some tips for last fight (apex)
Remember it's an escape, your meant to be fast and leave without killing all the ugguardians.
Ideally you want to quickly kill the first few when they appear and have the keys ready to use after each one. It's possible to kill the first three before the next comes out, and unlock those three locks along the way. After that just freeze/evade the fourth one as it is much tougher, use the last key and head for the orb. More will start to spawn to put the pressure on and make it a much better option to just grab the orb and run. Only fight them if truly needed.
Well you made it at least
Keep your characters for the sequel!
Re: Pyramid of Xafi
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:59 pm
by Hustin
Normal difficulty.
The problem is keeping up with the spawn rate. By the third or fourth key, I always wound up blocked by them all, especially when having to wait for the pits to close.
Re: Pyramid of Xafi
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:00 am
by Xanathar
It crashes to me when reloading a save game.
It happens in level 4, and the cause seems to be happening right after killing the idle snail which triggers the spiders trap. As if I weren't hating the spider enough
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After triggering that event, all save games are corrupt but I'm able to play through (just I can't reload if I want). If I change level, the save can be reloaded without errors, but the game crashes as soon as I reenter level 4.
[string "TorchHolder.lua"]:0: attempt to compare number with nil
stack traceback:
[string "TorchHolder.lua"]: in function 'update'
[string "Map.lua"]: in function 'updateEntities'
[string "Dungeon.lua"]: in function 'updateLevels'
[string "GameMode.lua"]: in function 'update'
[string "Grimrock.lua"]: in function 'display'
[string "Grimrock.lua"]: in main chunk
OS Version 6.2
OEM ID: 0
Number of processors: 8
Page size: 4096
Processor type: 586
Total memory: 8073 MB
Free memory: 5616 MB
Display device 0:
Device name: \\.\DISPLAY1
Device string: Intel(R) HD Graphics 3000
State flags: 00000005
Display device 1:
Device name: \\.\DISPLAY2
Device string: Intel(R) HD Graphics 3000
State flags: 08000000
Display device 2:
Device name: \\.\DISPLAY3
Device string: NVIDIA NVS 4200M
State flags: 00000000
Display device 3:
Device name: \\.\DISPLAY4
Device string: NVIDIA NVS 4200M
State flags: 00000000
Re: Pyramid of Xafi
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:05 am
by Xanathar
Actually I tested it more:
First of all I was once able to kill the snail without triggering the trap. Which would probably mean I would have been stuck.
Second, it doesn't corrupt savegames when the trap is triggered; it does so after some of those spiders are killed!
I can give you the save games if you want.
Re: Pyramid of Xafi
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:44 am
by Komag
sounds like maybe something is being saved that isn't allowed, which affects something else on level 4
Re: Pyramid of Xafi
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:05 am
by Xanathar
Ok, about the 2nd bug:
The reason why sometimes killing the snail doesn't work is because it seems to be an hidden plate triggered by items, and there is a chance for the snail to drop no food.
Still no understanding of the corrupt saves though
Re: Pyramid of Xafi
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:03 am
by Soaponarope
Wow, ok. I thought I had squashed all the bugs in this. I have no idea what could be crashing the game there. And it's corrupting save games before this event?
The event in question was done without a script, like most everything in the game since I hadn't learned at that point.
It is by use of a hidden pressure plate triggered by item, and I thought I had the snail always drop a slice, but surprisingly not.
How I overlooked this and how no one had an issue until now I have no idea, but that part is an easy fix.
The crash/corrupting on the other hand I am really in the dark as to how to fix. I don't see how it's even related, or where to begin. I haven't been able to reenact this, testing it over and over. One thing I can try is to redo the event with an on death script instead.
string TorchHolder? I didn't do anything unusual with torch holders. If anyone has an ideas on this please share, and I'm sorry this happened.
Re: Pyramid of Xafi
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:56 am
by Soaponarope
Redid with script and updated to steam and nexus. Haven't been able to cause a crash. I hope this is just a freak occurrence, because I'm very confused.
Re: Pyramid of Xafi
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:49 am
by Xanathar
The reason I encountered the snail bug a couple of times is probably because I killed that snail 2987465984 times trying to understand the other problem
It's very rare indeed.
The corrupted saves problem is really weird and happens 100% of the time, the error seems indeed not be related with scripting entities.
If you or anyone else wants to check the savegames, they are here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rnxr2c0n73jq1 ... s_Xafi.zip