FINISTERRAE version 2.3

[Duncan1246]

"I have to walk into it":
yes, the correct sequence is: 1- put a pg in a hand 2-one step forward to be under the ladder 3- the pg jump in front of you and you can pick it. Climb the ladder is not of any use, ladder is here only because others attempts to pick the pg had been made in the past.

"I can't take it.":
the only way I can reproduce this issue is when I put the gems in the alternative hands, ie the hands hidden. If the pg is in any visible hand, the pg blocked jump. I can add the other handset in the script, but I think that it's weird to put an item in hand and to hide it in the same moment.

[Zo Kath Ra]

I'm stuck in Under Waste

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There's a scroll that says "5 up 4 down 1 down". What does this refer to?
x 24
y 19
facing 2
elevation 2

How do I deactivate the force fields?

How do I open this gate?
x 6
y 17
facing 3
elevation 0

There's an altar with an ice rune in front of it.
What is this altar for?
x 13
y 17
facing 3
elevation 0

What is this lever for?
x 15
y 26
facing 0
elevation 2

edit:
Found another crash bug in Under Waste

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I've opened this lock with the ruby key:
x 23
y 20
facing 1
elevation 2

After stepping on this square, any attempt to save the game (even after leaving the square) crashes the game:
x 23
y 22
facing 2
elevation 2

Crash log:

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fw: cannot serialize function with upvalues
stack traceback:
	[C]: in function 'error'
	[string "Script.lua"]: in function 'saveValue'
	[string "Script.lua"]: in function 'saveValue'
	[string "Script.lua"]: in function 'saveValue'
	[string "Script.lua"]: in function 'saveValue'
	[string "Script.lua"]: in function 'saveValue'
	[string "Script.lua"]: in function 'saveState'
	[string "GameObject.lua"]: in function 'saveState'
	[string "Map.lua"]: in function 'saveState'
	[string "GameMode.lua"]: in function 'saveGame'
	[string "GameMode.lua"]: in function 'quickSave'
	[string "GameMode.lua"]: in function 'keyPressed'
	[string "Grimrock.lua"]: in function 'pollEvents'
	[string "Grimrock.lua"]: in function 'display'
	[string "Grimrock.lua"]: in main chunk

I can upload a savegame.

[Duncan1246]

I'm stuck in Under Waste

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There's a scroll that says "5 up 4 down 1 down". What does this refer to?
This note left by some ratling give you one solution for the bridge upstairs. But it's a partial clue: you have to find how the buttons are associated with the numbers. As you have a reinitialize button, think to push it first to start from the position suited for the note

How do I deactivate the force fields?

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A scroll you have found says: "... I know what to do of the gems, but could not free them from their power cages.
I guess the book kept up there is the key that I miss..." When you have the book, put it on the central altar (rune "Water"), and it's done

How do I open this gate?

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Open automatically when you have found how to use the two altars at 3,19 and 3,15

What is this lever for?

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Personal lever of the magician to rise the bridge N-S. Avoid to go East 21,17 to operate the bridge

After stepping on this square, any attempt to save the game (even after leaving the square) crashes the game:
x 23
y 22

I have forgotten an exit condition, added now.
You can go on without this fix

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Open a good save, go on the slab with the dogs and turn to the right 4 times.

In this case, no bug happens.

[Zo Kath Ra]

OK, I've put the "Book of Runes" (whose uiName is actually "Power of the Runes") on the central altar, the one marked with the water rune
=> the force fields are still active

The item name is "tome_of_Runes" and the item ID is "tome_of_Runes_2".
- Why "_2"? Is there more than one Book of Runes in the mod?
- Why is there in a capital letter in the item name and item ID? Typos like that are a source of bugs
- When you put an item on the altar, the mod calls the function "repowerune" in "script_entity_30".
I can't look at the source code of this function, so I can't tell you any more about the bug.
Maybe the function uses the wrong item name or item ID?

[Duncan1246]

the force fields are still active >> I don't understand, I have tested in game and it works. The script is very simple:

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function surfaceContains(surface, item)
   for _,i in surface:contents() do
     if i.go.name == item then
       return true
	  else return false	
      end
   end
end
puton=0
 function repowerune()
	
	if puton==0 and surfaceContains(pedestal_22.surface,"tome_of_Runes") then
		force_field_28.controller:deactivate()
		force_field_29.controller:deactivate()
		force_field_30.controller:deactivate()
		spawn("whiteflash",self.go.level,12,17,1,0)
	end
	puton=1
end

The flag "puton" can't be changed elsewhere than by the function "repowerune", so I don't see anything wrong.
EDIT: in reading once more, I see it: the flag is changed as soon as you put an item even if it isn't the good one. The line "flag=1" ought to be inside the loop. I change it.
To debug, i don't know the good command in console to change puton (it seems that "puton=0" don't work), but you can type in the console the three deactivate lines.

The item name is "tome_of_Runes" and the item ID is "tome_of_Runes_2" >> it's because the game had kept an "historical" value of the ID. This tome is the only one in game.

- Why is there in a capital letter in the item name and item ID? Typos like that are a source of bugs >>
not my choice, it's an imported asset, but I can change it if it's a buggy thing...
The difference between name and UI is imo a "plus" information (for the players finding it before informations on its use) but perhaps it's a bad idea.

[Zo Kath Ra]

EDIT: in reading once more, I see it: the flag is changed as soon as you put an item even if it isn't the good one. The line "flag=1" ought to be inside the loop. I change it.
To debug, i don't know the good command in console to change puton (it seems that "puton=0" don't work), but you can type in the console the three deactivate lines.

Yes, the first thing I tried was putting a water clay tile on the pedestal.

You should also modify the "surfaceContains" function, because it only checks the first item on the surface.
If there is more than one item on the surface, the functions only returns true the item was put on the surface before all other items.
Suggested change:

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function surfaceContains(surface, item)
	for _,i in surface:contents() do
		if i.go.name == item then
			return true
		end
	end
	
	return false
end

[Duncan1246]

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You should also modify the "surfaceContains" function, because it only checks the first item on the surface.
If there is more than one item on the surface, the functions only returns true the item was put on the surface before all other items.

Interesting suggestion that I probably have benefit to use in some places, but not here: I try to don't leave some important steps to hazardous trials (but I understand that the player can think in another way). Put the book here is a part of a ritual and information on it can be found (wizard note) to do the right thing...

[Zo Kath Ra]

How do I deactivate the force fields?

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A scroll you have found says: "... I know what to do of the gems, but could not free them from their power cages.
I guess the book kept up there is the key that I miss..." When you have the book, put it on the central altar (rune "Water"), and it's done

So, if I give the Book of Runes to the guy in the Aerion bookstore *before* putting it on the water altar, I can't complete the game?
Or is there a way to get the Book of Runes back from the guy in the bookstore?

[Duncan1246]

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So, if I give the Book of Runes to the guy in the Aerion bookstore *before* putting it on the water altar, I can't complete the game?
Or is there a way to get the Book of Runes back from the guy in the bookstore?

The answer is

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If you give the book, you can't get it back at first, but all is still possible. Concerning Underwaste, without the book you can't get the power gems, but if you have some power gems found elsewhere (they are more than necessary), you can proceed further.
Another clue: first, if you use the book to enter the library, you are not obliged to give it, and second, you have (I think) found an important note in Croosroads concerning the library allowing you to enter without the book

[Zo Kath Ra]

Octaedron
x 4
y 17
facing 1
elevation 4
level 22
Pull the lever down, then up, then down again
=> crash
Same with the other levers.