Grimrock

Is timer performance related to clock speed and/or FPS?
No Grimrock time in the end today (Sunday is manic D&D planning as GM for the afternoon session, followed by pub with D&D group - so it's always different!). Will play through tomorrow though and see if I can do those pits .

Can you remember where you were coming from when you noticed them deadlocked?

Is timer performance related to clock speed and/or FPS?

Actually I don't think they are related, but if there are FPS drops is even more difficult to move quickly. I was about 35/40 fps in that room (not unusual for my laptop).
Anyway the puzzle was feasible (as I could do it!) and definetely a lot less frustrating than, say, the level 7 iron door of the original game (which I could only do with Toorum ), so I'd say not a problem at all!

Thanks for the detailed comments! My replies are below yours.

JohnWordsworth wrote:Is timer performance related to clock speed and/or FPS?

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I play at 120Hz on my monitor usually - and while I couldn't get over those pits when I quickly played through in 0.9i or so the other day, I only tried twice as I had the lightning guns and was testing the patrols really!

No Grimrock time in the end today (Sunday is manic D&D planning as GM for the afternoon session, followed by pub with D&D group - so it's always different!). Will play through tomorrow though and see if I can do those pits .

It must be related then, because I don't have a problem getting across. It's tight, but doable. Grab the next version tomorrow though, instead of 0.9i, and I'll tweak them a bit plus look at the other issues Xanathar raised.

I miss those D&D sessions! If you're familiar with rolld20 we ought to get an online group together some time.

Xanathar wrote:

Is timer performance related to clock speed and/or FPS?

Actually I don't think they are related, but if there are FPS drops is even more difficult to move quickly. I was about 35/40 fps in that room (not unusual for my laptop).
Anyway the puzzle was feasible (as I could do it!) and definetely a lot less frustrating than, say, the level 7 iron door of the original game (which I could only do with Toorum ), so I'd say not a problem at all!

I remember having reached an impasse on the original game, the puzzle early on that deals with hitting buttons to control the pittraps spread across the room. FInally I went on the forums and somebody mentioned turning down all the graphics options. Went back to the game and, boom! - no problem.

It does seem like LoG is a videoRAM intensive game, moreso than most in terms of timing issues.

(Thanks for the info on when the deadlock occurred. Were you ever able to figure out the puzzles you were stuck on?)

Uh I miss d&d!
About the deadlock: tomorrow I'll try to load old saves and backtrack the point. I can also send you the saves if you find them useful.

Got to go to sleep now, goodnight

Xanathar wrote:Uh I miss d&d!
About the deadlock: tomorrow I'll try to load old saves and backtrack the point. I can also send you the saves if you find them useful.

Got to go to sleep now, goodnight

No worries, I was just curious. I know it's probably one of two counter/plate combinations I need to tweak.
G'night.

Cool to read about the timers. I see what you mean - if your FPS is low, then you get less time to make your moves I guess. I was probably just being slow when I tried the pit :p.

Would be up from a Grimrock RollD20 game at some point. Maybe in the New Year when I'm in Canada and will be looking for a new game to play/run!

JohnWordsworth wrote:Cool to read about the timers. I see what you mean - if your FPS is low, then you get less time to make your moves I guess. I was probably just being slow when I tried the pit :p.

Here's what's coming in v0.9j:

• - Replaced the clipping lantern (to give the player an extra torch before dropping into the pit, and also to illuminate it better)
  - Replaced the ogres' hammers with a "Weak Hammer" which has a skill level of 6 and does 10 damage.
  - Adjusted the ogres' power accordingly (they only hit for 65 now instead of 80 )
  - Adjusted the timers in the archer / pit trap room to give players a bit more time to walk across them
  - Dressed the Serpent Bracer room to better reflect what previous adventurers have experienced in there.
  - Tweaked the positioning and text of the sign in the Serpent Bracer room
  - Added two more plates with counters to destroy patrols and spawn new ones (to keep them from getting too close together), and reduced the counter on another
  - Lowered the patrol spawn timer to 0.6 (since all attached plates now only activate once)
  - Added four small herders
  - Replaced one spider with a small herder (in the "broken lever") room
  - Removed the "Do not touch this button!" text and button and implemented a proper puzzle for the secret door...
  - ...which has now been replaced with a portcullis (as has the secret door on the other end of the same hall).
  - The cryptogram on the wall in the teleporter maze now says (in English), "Which way were you facing when you arrived here?" (Hopefully, that coupled with the scroll found at the start of the telemaze will trigger an "a-ha" moment for players)

Upload in about an hour; exporting and playing completely through. For this run, I'm going to jack every setting down to low to increase the game's speed, just to make sure there aren't any problems with computers better than mine.

[EDIT at 12:14pm]
After playing, added the following:

Additional fixes in v0.9j:
- Fixed clipping issues around final portcullis
- Changed plate location that opens wall after lvl 2
- Moved the healing crystal back a tile (so player can't click through portcullis)
- Initialized marching patrols when the player arrives at the last tile of the teleporter puzzle (instead of the tile after)
- Changed location of light source in spider/small herder room (shining through other side of wall)
- Added potion recipes (Anti-venom and Health)
- Added deletion of all counter-connected pressure plates to final swap of patrols script (so player doesn't spawn new patrols after engaging them in exit cage)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ilixgkv7pwjwc ... nt_09j.dat