Grimrock

Isaac wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 11:52 pm

wagtunes wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 5:28 pmFor the 3rd alcove, I can take the item out but once I do, I can't put it back in. I can put any of the 3 items in alcoves 1 and 2. But I can put none of the items into alcove 3.

I can't replicate the problem; I used the definition you posted; it worked as expected.

Have you checked that there are not two alcoves on the same tile?
(Alcove 3 and a 4th).

Just checked. Nope, that's not it. The only thing different is that the alcove that doesn't work is to the left of a door. Would that do it?

It shouldn't, and doesn't for me, using the stock [official] doors.

Have you tried erasing it and replacing it? (I assume so.)
Have you moved the door away from the alcove, (or vice versa)?

Isaac wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 4:00 am It shouldn't, and doesn't for me, using the stock [official] doors.

Have you tried erasing it and replacing it? (I assume so.)
Have you moved the door away from the alcove, (or vice versa)?

No, I haven't done anything yet. Will try a couple of things tomorrow.

Okay, I've deleted the alcove and moved it and the problem is now intermittent. Mostly it doesn't work.

It is the strangest thing but not surprising. I suspect is has something to do with my OS as I have bugs in other LoG dungeons that people can't replicate. The oddest one is in Master Quest in the room with 2 doors off to the sides and the door straight ahead and when you open that door, after opening the other 2 and flipping all the necessary levers, you then pick up the key from the alcove and all the walls around it are supposed to open so you can continue on. Well, the first time I played it, it worked fine. Then I updated to Windows 10 and ever since taking the key does not activate the walls.

Very peculiar.

Can you reproduce the problem in a new project?

And if so... upload that project here. People will look at it.
Make a short demo map with everything needed to cause the problem.

Use the map description, and/or a text wall for any instructions.

* No need to spend more than ten minutes on it.

Isaac wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 3:32 pm And if so... upload that project here. People will look at it.

It's surprising how many people don't upload test dungeons to demonstrate bugs.
And it's too bad that you can't attach files to forum posts.

Maybe they don't know any easy-to-use file hosting services?
Which one would you recommend?

Isaac wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 3:32 pm Can you reproduce the problem in a new project?

And if so... upload that project here. People will look at it.
Make a short demo map with everything needed to cause the problem.

Use the map description, and/or a text wall for any instructions.

* No need to spend more than ten minutes on it.

Can't I just upload this project?

Zo Kath Ra wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 4:18 pm Which one would you recommend?

Dropbox or Google Drive.

Dropbox is free for a limited account.
IIRC Google Drive is part of having a Google account.

wagtunes wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 5:14 pm Can't I just upload this project?

Yes you can... some modders prefer not to upload a map in progress.

The best way is to put the project folder into an archive, and upload that. An easy way to do this on Windows, is to create a new compressed folder (on the desktop), and drag the project folder into it; upload the new ZIP file from the desktop.

Isaac wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 8:17 pm

Zo Kath Ra wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 4:18 pm Which one would you recommend?

Dropbox or Google Drive.

Dropbox is free for a limited account.
IIRC Google Drive is part of having a Google account.

wagtunes wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 5:14 pm Can't I just upload this project?

Yes you can... some modders prefer not to upload a map in progress.

The best way is to put the project folder into an archive, and upload that. An easy way to do this on Windows, is to create a new compressed folder (on the desktop), and drag the project folder into it; upload the new ZIP file from the desktop.

Thanks. It's nice that you didn't take for granted that I knew how to do that. Fortunately, I've been zipping and hosting files on my own sites for 24 years now. But I'm gonna throw this on DropBox because it's easier.

Here it is

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7sp4ea618w8zz ... p.zip?dl=0

I made this real easy. I set the starting location right in front of the alcove in question. Simply take the Assassin Dagger out and see if you can put it back in. Should take all of 5 seconds.