Grimrock

After a couple runs, this is the best group I've come up with:

Human Fighter, 13 Str/13 Dex/14 Vit - Skilled/Fist Fighter - Armor 8, rest in Unarmed
Human Fighter, 12 Str/14 Dex/14 Vit - Skilled/Aggressive - Armor 25, rest in Swords
Minotaur Rogue, 21 Str/18 Vit - Headhunter/Aggressive - Max Missile Weapons
Insectoid Mage, 14 Vit/18 Will - Skilled/Strong Mind - Spellcraft 10, rest in Air Magic
*all stats given before Trait/Skill bonuses

I can tell you this much. Any "best" group would have zero skill spent in defensive stats like armor, dodge, etc... And any unarmed specialized character should be a minotaur fighter (35 melee stats compared to 30 of the human) due to unarmed getting huge dex boosts with any extra skills spent on 2 in athletics and 4 in sword/axe for the bonus +3 strength. Lastly, taking skilled as a trait is a waste unless you are doing some sort of low level speed run and need the extra skills to get a specific skill.

4 rogues .. see King Tulla's thread on that (below). I've played through twice with 4 rogues and twice with a "standard" party of sword, axe, shooter, mage. They're both fun, but the rogue party has all the awesomeness.

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Fighter swords, rogue unarmed, rogue missile, rogue missile was the best and fastest party I've tried so far.

Well, the "most effective" party I played so far is certainly the 4 rogue one.

Though it's sad to throw all this heavy armour into the next garbage bin ...

Mystina, re your ultimate party:
What weapon/s did you use for your front row rogue?
I blended some of your suggestions with some other tips for
a much better party than the default set, thanks.

Pask

Eobersig wrote:Well, the "most effective" party I played so far is certainly the 4 rogue one.

Though it's sad to throw all this heavy armour into the next garbage bin ...

Yeah, I still like light armor, heavy armor, lurker (missile), and mage group. Takes a bit more effort thant the 4 rogue, but has the reward of actually using most of the stuff you find. Then again, I like the 4 rogues .. different rewards.

In response to the question about what weapons for the FRRs, dagger and unarmed, two unarmed, sword and unarmed (trying that now) . If you sense a pattern there, kudos ... UNARMED rocks. Back row does most of the damage, though your front row will do considerable as they level up.

muun wrote:... Yeah, I still like light armor, heavy armor, lurker (missile), and mage group. Takes a bit more effort thant the 4 rogue, but has the reward of actually using most of the stuff you find. Then again, I like the 4 rogues .. different rewards. ...

Indeed, I currently have two teams running through the dungeon: a 4-rogue party (dagger, unarmed, missiles, throwing weapon) and a "rogueless" party (fighter sword, fighter mace, ice/earth mage, air/fire mage), and it makes for a very different experience.

The rogue party just cuts through anything but finding new gear at a secret place is kinda stale ("Just another sword or some heavy armour, shiny stuff, aye, useless, throw it onto the garbage pile") while the fighter/mage combo is much slower progressing but when you find something there's a better chance you can actually use it (Okay, that party throws all range weapons onto the garbage pile).

The other difference is that the 4-rogue party levels more or less equally fast while in the fighter/mage party the mages level at a much faster pace than the fighters. Funnily the 2 mages level at the same pace although they're using completely different spells.