Grimrock

r0ck wrote:you forgot to put doorframes to your ironbars doors Ingame it will look really strange without em ^^.

Indeed. Well spotted, i didn't notice that until just now

krayzkrok wrote:

Isaac wrote:What's the down-side for a left-click menu that only pop's up when the user calls for it?

What I'm talking about is getting instant feedback on tile contents, "mouse over" as hannamarin says. It would be tedious and time-consuming to left/right click every tile that you wanted to check contents for, especially if you were working on a puzzle over a large area. There are several ways of showing mouse-over information somewhere, and it's easy to select click a tile so you can then start working on individual elements, or right click to bring up a context menu, but don't make me click each tile to display that information when I'm just looking around.

When I envision the editor in use, I make the assumption that very few tiles will actually have a stack of items, creatures, and/or puzzle logic on them. If the engine were to auto update a 'viewer panel' that lists the contents for any tile under the cursor... then the engine would have to check every tile under the cursor, and most would be empty; a few would have one or more stacks, and a very few would have a large list of things on that tile. I do not see why the engine shouldn't mark any tile that has multiple items and logic with an obvious icon, and let the user click on the one they wish to view. A dedicated viewer panel would permanently take up UI space, where a pop-up (on demand) menu would allow you to quickly select the item of interest, and could include a link to a 'floating' or dedicated viewer panel as well.

Traxis wrote:

r0ck wrote:you forgot to put doorframes to your ironbars doors Ingame it will look really strange without em ^^.

Indeed. Well spotted, i didn't notice that until just now

Who cares? That wasn't the point of this quick demo, I wasn't going for accuracy.

Hey petri-

petri wrote: - Consider storing the entire dungeon in a single big dungeon.lua file

What's the advantage / disadvantage of this? From an outsider's perspective (mine), it seems like having a .lua file per dungeon floor would make things easier to debug when shit gets wacky. Also, it might be easier to release episodic content if you include the right hooks, rather than having to redistribute the whole code-base again (and possibly reset existing globals?).

If it's an issue of how to render the preview, couldn't we specify something similar to C's headers using #include level1.lua level2.lua in the dungeon script, so when it compiles we get the right linked content?

petri wrote:- Consider storing the entire dungeon in a single big dungeon.lua file

Wouldn't that also cause problems later on, when people would mod more than just the dungeon. Packing them in data files, rather than using a loose .lua feels better in the long run.

agris wrote:

petri wrote: - Consider storing the entire dungeon in a single big dungeon.lua file

What's the advantage / disadvantage of this? From an outsider's perspective (mine), it seems like having a .lua file per dungeon floor would make things easier to debug when shit gets wacky. Also, it might be easier to release episodic content if you include the right hooks, rather than having to redistribute the whole code-base again (and possibly reset existing globals?).

I haven't made up my mind about this yet. Having a single document is pretty convenient because it can be easily moved around and levels can be added/removed by the editor without creating/deleting files in the file system. Note that there would be nothing stopping the document containing multiple Lua source code chunks if needed.

Pétri I plans for a large dungeon with me that I would convert on the level editor for Legend of grimrock when it becomes available, I am very impatient,
issue of the level editor legend of grimrock can withstand large level ???

raf68 wrote:Pétri I plans for a large dungeon with me that I would convert on the level editor for Legend of grimrock when it becomes available, I am very impatient,
issue of the level editor legend of grimrock can withstand large level ???

Currently all levels are max 32x32 squares and there are no restrictions to the number of levels except available memory.

petri wrote: Currently all levels are max 32x32 squares and there are no restrictions to the number of levels except available memory.

Any chance the size can be increased past 32x32 or is it quite a difficult thing to do?

Daniel.

Darklord wrote:Any chance the size can be increased past 32x32 or is it quite a difficult thing to do?

It's not particularly difficulty, just takes time to replace all the hardcoded sizes and add a tool for resizing the map. The automap would need to be scrollable or zoomable and I wouldn't want to touch that part of the code because it was pretty painful to make it work with different resolutions...