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[Curunir]

Thanks a bunch! I tried looking through LOG2DOC but I know zero coding so it's mostly putting together bits and pieces from other people's scripts published on the forum and trying to add my own little widgets to them.

[Curunir]

What is the method behind "walk this specific path on the floor" puzzles?

I tried doing it with triggers, a counter and a timer, incrementing the counter on a wrong step and giving a relatively short time to walk the right steps before the timer resets the counter, but this still allows trial and error double-triggering of correct tiles within the counter time. Sadly, I have no idea how to script it.

[Edit] Also, how do I go about filling a room with poison (gas)? I did it with 10 spawners that produce poison_cloud_medium triggered by the same floor tile, but it's a pain to set up in the editor and I suspect the code for the same effect would be 5 lines long, plus I can't have the poison stay on longer and can't kill it on opening the door (to simulate airing the room)

Lastly, why doesn't editor entity castle_tall_wall_corridor_end do its job? It's supposed to mask ceiling height differences in castle tiles, as in, going from a ceiling-1 to a ceiling-2 room, but it shows up buggy for me, even though I have it set up exactly the way it's in the original game. For me, the original ceiling's vertical bar doesn't go away and it bugs the view, as seen here: https://i.imgur.com/oDxdjL6.jpg --- https://i.imgur.com/X8j7LnK.jpg [/Edit]

[Isaac]

Maps have a module height setting in the level properties. Most levels are set to a height of 3, but castle levels are set to 4.
Right-click on your level, in the editor, and choose Properties, and set the module height to 4.

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Scripting is the way to go with all but the simplest puzzles, and placements.

There is a wealth of scripted resources in the asset packs, and the user forum. It's well worth spending the time to learn to read scripts, to understand how to structurally alter them; and to later devise them. Grimrock uses the Lua scripting language, and there are many tutorials to start learning it. You can begin at Lua.org, and find video tutorials on Youtube.

Spend a week following some Lua tutorials, and reading the asset pack, the forum scripts, and asking more questions. By the end, you will likely have written your own scripts in the editor.

Also, how do I go about filling a room with poison (gas)? I did it with 10 spawners that produce poison_cloud_medium triggered by the same floor tile, but it's a pain to set up in the editor and I suspect the code for the same effect would be 5 lines long, plus I can't have the poison stay on longer and can't kill it on opening the door (to simulate airing the room)

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--POISON GAS multi-tile placeable region  (place the script_entity at the top-most left corner)

cloud = {}		  --a table of detail parameters; used for each of the clouds. 
cloud.region = {} --tiles; starts from top-left, at script placement

	  --___________________[user variable EFFECT settings]
	cloud.region.x = 7			-- number of tiles West to East
	cloud.region.y = 7			-- number of tiles North to South
	cloud.type = "poison_cloud_large"
	cloud.duration = math.huge  --seconds; effectively infinite
	cloud.cloudFadeOut = 2.5    --seconds
	cloud.attackPower = 5		
	cloud.damageType = "poison"
	cloud.damageInterval = 0.4
	  --___________________
cloud.members = {} 				--will hold the id strings of the spawned clouds; used later, to affect their settings

function triggerGasCloud()
	for x = self.go.x, self.go.x + cloud.region.x do			--sets the range of x to start where you place the script
		if x < 32 then											--skip loops where x exceed the edge of the map
			for y = self.go.y, self.go.y + cloud.region.y do	--sets the range of y to start where you place the script
				if y < 32 then									--skip loops where y exceed the edge of the map
					if not self.go.map:isWall(x, y) then		--skip tiles that are walls
						
						--assigns the (unknown) generated id string to cloudId, for temporary use 
						local cloudId = spawn(cloud.type, self.go.level, x, y, math.random(4)%3, self.go.elevation).id
						
						cloud.members[#cloud.members+1] = cloudId  --permanently records the id in the cloud.members table 
						
						local gas = findEntity(cloudId)			   --temporarily assigns an entity (via the id) to the variable: gas 
							--used to set cloudspell parameters
							gas.cloudspell:setDuration(cloud.duration)
							gas.cloudspell:setAttackPower(cloud.attackPower)
							gas.cloudspell:setDamageInterval(cloud.damageInterval)
							gas.cloudspell:setDamageType(cloud.damageType)
							gas.particle:setDestroyObject(true)
					end
				end 
			end
		end
	end
		
end

--iterates through a list of recorded object id strings; sets each cloud to fade away using the value in cloud.cloudFadeOut
function disperseCloud()
	for _,cloudId in pairs(cloud.members) do
		findEntity(cloudId).particle:fadeOut(cloud.cloudFadeOut)
	end
	cloud.members={}
end

[Curunir]

Thanks for the advice, Isaac! This is exactly what I've been doing, but I guess I'm just not built for it.

I'm struggling, even though I have accumulated a massive collection of scripting examples from the forum.
I go through the scripts occasionally, trying to parrot and modify things as needed, but sometimes there just isn't anything I can do.

I will try to think of some clearly formulated questions about specific things that stump me the most when I read script and post those tomorrow.

Thanks for your responsiveness and assistance once again!

[Curunir]

I was familiarizing myself with assets a bit more in-depth and plopped all "beach_" entities on a sandy map today, and saw that (at least?) three of them came up as untextured milky-grey models (beach_rock_overhang_1x1, beach_wall_decoration_grass_02, beach_wall_decoration_grass_01).

Is there a list of all "unused" and unusable editor assets somewhere?

I also saw a mod that had green crystals in place of the blue ones in the "mine_" assets. Does this require changing material definitions or is it simpler?
Finally, is there a way to control / push a pushable block with a pressure plate 'on' signal? I'm trying to recreate some simple EOTB2 puzzles.

[Edit] Woah, woah, my very first script, which actually works and I didn't completely copy-paste it from somewhere else!

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function mover()
	if party.y == 10 then
	pushie_1.pushableblock:push(2)

	elseif party.y == 8 then
		pushie_1.pushableblock:push(0)
	
	elseif party.y == 9 and pushie_1.y == 8 then
		pushie_1.pushableblock:push(2)
		
	elseif party.y == 9 and pushie_1.y == 10 then
		pushie_1.pushableblock:push(0)
		
	else end
	
	end

I have 3x3 area, 2x3 plates and 1x3 with the movable block behind them. I just hooked all plates to the script and now the block moves together with the party, trying to block their way.

[Isaac]

[Edit] Woah, woah, my very first script,

The crystals are a bit of a special case.
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=13970&p=105765&hil ... al#p105765
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=12814&p=101988#p101988

[Curunir]

The crystals are a bit of a special case.
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=13970&p=105765&hil ... al#p105765
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=12814&p=101988#p101988

I was thinking about the crystals in the walls of the crystal mine tileset, not the healing huge ones. Or is it that they simply share the same material definitions?

[Isaac]

They use the same material.

[Curunir]

Is there a way to choose what height to place objects at, the way you can with tiles?

I just did a riverbed decoration with weeds and good god, it was a PAIN to lower each entity below water level.

My hand hurts, 400 objects and it's the map is not even 25% done. Gonna have to scale down on the next maps...

[Isaac]

Yes. There are a couple of ways in script. Unfortunately the default elevation in the editor is always zero.

The relevant script functions to move an object allow it to be placed precisely where one wishes it to be.
These functions are:

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GameObject:setPosition(x, y, facing, elevation, level)
GameObject:setSubtileOffset(x, y)
GameObject:setWorldPosition(vec)
GameObject:setWorldPositionY(y)
GameObject:setWorldRotation(...)
GameObject:setWorldRotationAngles(x, y, z)
GameObject:setWorldRotationAnglesWithOrder(x, y, z, order)