Grimrock

petri wrote:

Mameluk wrote:60e? Are you kidding? ...

I don't think there's anyone who disagrees with you

Yeah, sorry, just wanted to make my point. I kind of like rambling.

Honestly, I'm slightly worried about the release, but here you have a game with so much potential for future growth. It's unique and interesting. It appeals to many different audiences, and indie games are pretty big business these days compared to what it was just 5 years ago.

Hopefully all goes well for you.

Mameluk wrote:

petri wrote:

Mameluk wrote:Honestly, I'm slightly worried about the release

A fact of life is that you can't please everyone all the time. Whichever price point they pick, someone will complain. Even if it's free, someone will complain its not open source. Even if it's open source, someone will figure out something to complain about.

A true story I've reiterated plenty of times:

1999, I was working for a new media company. That is to say, web division of a marketing corporation. During an open art festival, we printed out some of our layouts and made a booth showing them off, and to top things off, we gave out free beer.

Free. Beer.

So someone comes along and complains we don't have his favorite brand.

I would pay $60+, I have never ever paid full price for a game and have bought about 500 games in the last 4 years on steam and PS3, but I would for this. I did notice this has all the Beholder fanboys already, but I think there would be many and many others. You can't use false logic. Unless they charge for lots of add-ons updates they would actually shoot themselves if they made it cheap. Better to have a base price they can apply 75% discounts to at Christmas/Easter and add cheap sequels to... or make it cheaper and charge more for every new dungeon and some add-ons. Even better still.. never have a separated sequel, just keep it in the same interface and add to it. Some games make a real mess of the steam client by making sequel after sequel with shared files rather than just updating the game with the sequel.

I think that big fella at steam will play this one for months, lol.

I have of coarse not even seen the game yet or looked at a vid, so am just assuming it has good gameplay.

Spathi wrote:I would pay $60+, I have never ever paid full price for a game and have bought about 500 games in the last 4 years on steam and PS3, but I would for this. I did notice this has all the Beholder fanboys already, but I think there would be many and many others. You can't use false logic. Unless they charge for lots of add-ons updates they would actually shoot themselves if they made it cheap. Better to have a base price they can apply 75% discounts to at Christmas/Easter and add cheap sequels to... or make it cheaper and charge more for every new dungeon and some add-ons. Even better still.. never have a separated sequel, just keep it in the same interface and add to it. Some games make a real mess of the steam client by making sequel after sequel with shared files rather than just updating the game with the sequel.

I think that big fella at steam will play this one for months, lol.

I have of coarse not even seen the game yet or looked at a vid, so am just assuming it has good gameplay.

Looks like someone doesn't know marketing.

I don't work as a PR salesman or anything at our company, but like with most things, we discuss this stuff together weekly, so trust me, I know.

You work for grimrock? I was just using the other chaps $60 and saying I would pay it I really don't know what you should charge. I got 200,000 downloads of my freeware in the first two weeks and then nothing much, so it is wise to make it work on day one, hence no betas, I do understand software, lol. Price is sales and has nothing to do with marketing, but discounting on steam does.

Well it is hard to put your price up later or discount if you start at $20. $60 with intro 20% off .. 75% off Christmas Easter winter, probably sells more copies, than flat $20. Really I would ask steam to price it for you.

Some people might ask for $20 here because they want to pay that and they are beating each others tight drum, might get their wish I suppose as it is not a $60 title (even though some of us would pay it).. but I don't think it is a $20 one either... and 75% off 60 is $15, so $5 bucks off for the $20 fan club anyway, I suppose they could do 25% off your $20, but then it would be annoying to do the 75% off bracket and many people wait for those ones. Maybe your right it depends on steam, I would not have a clue how they operate with studios. I still think it looks better than many of the $20 games I get for $5 or $10 on steam.

I just checked here to see if there was a demo, this thread seems a bit off the rails, lol.