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Re: food consumption

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 9:59 pm
by rakenan
Thels wrote:
UglyBastard wrote:I'm not 100% sure if the difficulty level has an influence on food consumption. I hadn't thought of that. If it does, then surely it doesn't need fixing. You can always get through with the crystals if need be. I did practically entire level 12 and 13 with my entire party starving, saving the bit of food I had left for the endboss (and ended up with an overfed party and food to spare).
I'm pretty sure difficulty level does increase (or decrease) food consumption. My hard party goes through substantially more food, too much for me to believe is caused by replacing the low-food-consumption insectoid in my normal party with a human.

Re: food consumption

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 10:02 pm
by UglyBastard
Human Fighter: Armor 16 Swords 4x somewhere near max
Mino Fighter: Armor 16 Axes Rest
Rogue: Missile Weapons only (maxed)
Mage: Ice Magic until enhanced Frostbolt, ~15 spare points I didn't spend

Re: food consumption

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 10:09 pm
by Thels
Thels wrote:I'm not 100% sure if the difficulty level has an influence on food consumption. I hadn't thought of that. If it does, then surely it doesn't need fixing. You can always get through with the crystals if need be. I did practically entire level 12 and 13 with my entire party starving, saving the bit of food I had left for the endboss (and ended up with an overfed party and food to spare).
rakenan wrote:I'm pretty sure difficulty level does increase (or decrease) food consumption. My hard party goes through substantially more food, too much for me to believe is caused by replacing the low-food-consumption insectoid in my normal party with a human.
Well, then you should have no problem whatsoever on Easy or Normal. On Hard you might have problems if you focus on survivability over damage, but even then it shouldn't be too hard.

I think most people went Normal first, and then Hard on the 2nd run, and figured by then that only damage is really important, in which case you kill everything fast enough for food not to be an issue.

If you go hard the first run in, and focus on armor, the game's a little different and food consumption is an issue, but still, not a major issue.

So if you still have food issues:
- Don't play on Hard, OR
- Focus on damage output, OR
- Deal with it by means of crystals.

Re: food consumption

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 11:16 pm
by Limba
Hmm.
It seems that Ice Lizards in lvl 9 are endless foodsource in Hard mode, because they respawn.

I used this resurect stone to get full mana + healt where I can use it and recommended to others also to use it.

Edit (OT)
Is there how many areas where mobs respawn?
I have found 2 areas between levels 1-9.

Re: food consumption

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 11:18 pm
by Thels
Limba wrote:Hmm.
It seems that Ice Lizards in lvl 9 are endless foodsource in Hard mode, because they respawn.
I thought so too, but their respawn rate is too slow to make them adequately useful. :(

Re: food consumption

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 11:21 pm
by Thels
Limba wrote:Edit (OT)
Is there how many areas where mobs respawn?
I have found 2 areas between levels 1-9.
There are several areas where mobs respawn. The skeletons on level 4. The skeletons on level 6. The snails on level 6. Etc...

Re: food consumption

Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 1:22 am
by waylander
on my first run on hard i never used 1 potion and never went back to a crystal,so if i was poisoned or injured i slept.starting level 6 i had 40 items of food in my inventory after that food was everywhere,

Re: food consumption

Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 1:23 am
by Merethif
Thels wrote:
rakenan wrote:Sometimes I wish I could see what people are doing that run out of food. There has to be something, but I can't figure out what. Most of the other things people complain about, I have I think a pretty good idea of why they are having trouble. Food concerns are the one that is a complete mystery to me.
Out of curiosity, mind if I ask you for your builds, especially early on?

The same for anyone else who had a food problem, or not at all. And don't forget to include your difficulty level. I wonder if specs have anything to do with it.
I also don't get how anyone can have food issues in LoG. I've finished game twice and always I've ended with like a five boxes and several sacks stuffed with food.
Both plays were on normal difficulty and with magic atlas... I mean automap ;-)
No extensive farming for food at re-spawning Snails or Ice Lizards.

My builds are below (skills in brackets from most developed to least developed):
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1st party:
Rogue Human (assassination, dodge, daggers),
Rogue Lizardman (unarmed),
Rogue Minotaur (throwing),
Mage Insectoid (air magic, ice magic, spellcraft)

Before final battle (playing time = about 16 hours) food supplies are as follows:
Snail Slices: 11
Herder Caps: 2
Grim Caps: 18
Baked Maggots: 6
Boiled Beetles: 4
Pitroot Breads: 13
Mole Jerky: 2
Rat Shanks: 1
Lizard Steaks: 10
Blueberry Pies: 1
TOTAL: 68
__________
2nd party:
Rogue Human (unarmed, dodge),
Mage Insectoid (staff defence, ice magic, spellcraft),
Rogue Minotaur (throwing),
Rogue Human (missiles)

Before final battle (playing time = about 10 hours) food supplies are as follows:
Snail Slices: 0
Herder Caps: 6
Grim Caps: 20
Baked Maggots: 14
Boiled Beetles: 6
Pitroot Breads: 16
Mole Jerky: 6
Rat Shanks: 3
Lizard Steaks: 11
Blueberry Pies: 1
TOTAL: 73
__________

Recently I've started 3rd party: four rogues (2 humans, 1 minotaur, 1 insectoid).
They're at Pillar of Light (depth 3), in the middle of spider caves.
They have following food supplies:
Snail Slices: 6
Herder Caps: 8
Grim Caps: 5
Baked Maggots: 2
Pitroot Breads: 3
Mole Jerky: 2

Re: food consumption

Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 1:55 am
by waylander
there must be 2 versions of this game or something,on the 1st level there is something like 20 pieces of food this should last almost the entire game,i just dont get it.

Re: food consumption

Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 7:29 am
by Thels
To those that can't understand food problems, try replaying on hard while building your team around survivability, rather than damage output. ;)