MASTER QUEST HELP: puzzles, clues, SECRETS, WALKTHROUGH

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Re: MASTER QUEST HELP: puzzles, clues, SECRETS, WALKTHROUGH

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Komag wrote:no bug - in the original it opened automatically, this is different - find a secret button nearby

ah. ty very much.
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Level 13:
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After defeating the cube. I'm in a room with a pressure plate, which activates a energy-bolt, which in turn opens up another corner of the room. But I can't see how to proceed from there.
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listen carefully to notice what else that plate does :)
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Komag wrote:listen carefully to notice what else that plate does :)
Sorry, not following you. Can you be more specific?
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Re: MASTER QUEST HELP: puzzles, clues, SECRETS, WALKTHROUGH

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the plate opens the portcullis
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Komag wrote:
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the plate opens the portcullis
I may have run into a bug, then. Not opening for me.
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JKCarrier wrote:
Komag wrote:
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the plate opens the portcullis
I may have run into a bug, then. Not opening for me.
Nope no bug there.
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already forgot the energy bolt and the other .. noise?
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Dr.Disaster wrote: Nope no bug there.
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already forgot the energy bolt and the other .. noise?
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If you mean I have to block the bolt, I don't see how. I step on the plate (or drop a rock on it) and the bolt hits the receptor before I can even take a step.
Can you just spoil it for me, please? I know you get a kick out of being cryptic, but I've been stuck here for a while, and I really would just like to move on. Thanks.
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You just stand in place to block it and then toss something to the plate. If it's still blocked, find the secret button to open the wall.
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JKCarrier wrote:
Dr.Disaster wrote: Nope no bug there.
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already forgot the energy bolt and the other .. noise?
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If you mean I have to block the bolt, I don't see how. I step on the plate (or drop a rock on it) and the bolt hits the receptor before I can even take a step.
Can you just spoil it for me, please? I know you get a kick out of being cryptic, but I've been stuck here for a while, and I really would just like to move on. Thanks.
No kick, experience. It is far more fun finding the solution by yourself thru a little hint then just follow a howto.

So this is the hint i see fit: recall level 4. The puzzle you're at is actually a combination of the entrance of "Beasts and Menagerie" and the 1st secret in "Times and Tide" where you teleported yourself.

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Complete explanation
The pressure plate does three things when activated:
- it raises the portculli
- it fires the energie bolt
- it raises walls beside the demon head. To keep this walls open the pressure plate has to stay activated.

When the energy ball hits the receptor the portculli closes again so you need to block the energy bolt from reaching it.
(-> recall "Beasts and Menagerie" entrance)
This also means that you need to throw something onto the pressure plate while standing in front of the receptor.
(-> recall 1st secret in "Times and Tide"; self-teleportation)
Now before you can toss anything onto the pressure plate you need to raise a wall between it and the receptor. This is done with a secret button which is revealed upon activating the pressure plate.

Step-by-Step
- hold the pressure plate down with an item and wait for the walls to rise
- push the secret button behind the raised wall to raise another wall
- pick up the item from the pressure plate
- stand in front of the receptor, blocking it this way
- throw anything onto the pressure plate
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