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Re: [WIP] Grimrock Model Tookit

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:57 pm
by Tomm
Probably not toolkit related, but I can't get my normal maps to work.. tried like every possible dds format and even replacing my normal map .dds with some original from the asset pack doesn't seem to work.. only my diffuse and specular are ok.

Re: [WIP] Grimrock Model Tookit

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:41 pm
by AmiDARK
Same problem here "An error occured while downloading a required file".
Impatient to see your next build to DL it and test it :)

Thank you for your work.

Re: [WIP] Grimrock Model Tookit

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:44 pm
by JohnWordsworth
I'm downloading the 90-day trial of Visual Studio Pro, which apparently has the traditional "Build an install package you can just download and install" option instead of this silly "Click Once" rubbish. If that fixes it, that resolves my issues for the next 90-days!

If all goes well, I will probably draw a line under the current version(s) and just put out a completely new download with SlimDX packaged with it.

Re: [WIP] Grimrock Model Tookit

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:08 pm
by djoldgames
Tomm wrote:Probably not toolkit related, but I can't get my normal maps to work.. tried like every possible dds format and even replacing my normal map .dds with some original from the asset pack doesn't seem to work.. only my diffuse and specular are ok.
Same problem.
After the process (GMT: open model - export obj, Blender: Import obj - change it - Export obj, GMT: import obj - save model) my normal maps not working, but dif and spec are OK.

Re: [WIP] Grimrock Model Tookit

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:46 pm
by Komag
have you tried http://www.advancedinstaller.com/
I've used it before for some simple things, may not be anything like what you need, I dunno, but might be worth a look at the free version

Re: [WIP] Grimrock Model Tookit

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 2:59 am
by JohnWordsworth
That's not a bad suggestion Komag. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to support 'requirements' without spending $300! However, you made me look for alternatives and VS2012 Pro (trial for now) comes with the Install Shield Limited Edition, so I've tried to put a build together with that.

I'm sorry for sending out builds that don't install easily. As my PC has the developer libraries installed, it always 'just works' here - while I'm reincarnating one of my old PCs so I can test installs before sending them out in future, I figured you would rather have the builds (even if they a a bit flakey) rather than me waiting a week or two before being 100% sure they're ok!

Latest version uses install shield installer. App comes packaged with SlimDx Dll so should work without having to install SlimDX, but this seems more picky than OpenTK unfortunately (grrr!), so you might need to install SlimDX redistributable v2.0. Links...

Installer File Download (v0.1.0.10).

GMT Homepage (soon to be updated with above installer URL).

SlixDX Download Page - You might need the SlimDX End User Runtime for .NET 2.0. Even though the app uses .Net 4.0, I link against the .Net 2.0 version of SlimDX as it is supposed to be more compatible!.

Please let me know how you get on. I've also disabled anti-aliasing, which will hopefully resolve that weird issue of the drawing being 'foggy'.

Re: [WIP] Grimrock Model Tookit

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:19 am
by crisman
Excellent, it's working now! You did a really good job! :D
Thank you so much for your efforts and patience!

Re: [WIP] Grimrock Model Tookit

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:54 am
by Isaac
djoldgames wrote:
Tomm wrote:Probably not toolkit related, but I can't get my normal maps to work.. tried like every possible dds format and even replacing my normal map .dds with some original from the asset pack doesn't seem to work.. only my diffuse and specular are ok.
Same problem.
After the process (GMT: open model - export obj, Blender: Import obj - change it - Export obj, GMT: import obj - save model) my normal maps not working, but dif and spec are OK.
Same here as well. Diffuse & Spec work fine; but no Normal Map. :(
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JohnWordsworth wrote:Please let me know how you get on.
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I have SlimDX Net4 installed; the Net2 installer won't install over Net4.
It states that there is already another version installed.

** Should I uninstall Net4 ~since you've bundled the Dll?
(And install Net2)

Edit: That didn't work ~Net2 wont install for me at all. (I've re-downloaded the installer a few times too.)
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Re: [WIP] Grimrock Model Tookit

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:21 am
by Bek
I just installed 0.1.0.10 no problems. win7 x64, first install of the GMT.

I've loaded a model but haven't tested maps yet. Also, I have a few feature suggestions for the future:

Toggle Human Scale reference: Similar to how Marmoset Toolbag's feature, it would be good if there was a toggleable human scale reference in the viewport, so you could tell if you object is scaled correctly. Perhaps for Grimrock it would make more sense to have scale in meters though, with 3m being the top of the roof and 0 being the floor.

View vertex normals: Possibly unnecessary, but it's a good way for those who don't have Marmoset Toolbag or any other method to see where vertices split. At the moment I can see my model and that smoothing groups are working, but I'd need to check the model in Marm. if I wanted to see all the splits.

Sensitivity adjustments: This is probably just because my model is scaled up to be HUGE, but moving around is really slow. Possibly unnecessary since most scaled items will all be < 3m square.

Again possibly unnecessary, but wireframe mode. I don't particularly need it since I have marmoset but it might be useful for others, esp if they forget triangulation.

Also, should list keyboard commands, I just stumbled upon the u/i/o/j/k/l keys then :P Is there a way to move the scene light? If you download the Marmoset Toolbag trial you could have a look at the keyboard setup they have - they use CNTRL to move model, shift to move Sky, alt to move camera, shift + alt for camera (snapped), shift + control for snap model.

Just some suggestions, really awesome work so far, thanks for doing this :)

Re: [WIP] Grimrock Model Tookit

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:46 am
by HaunterV
Steam is offering some software now that is not just games... there is a game maker studio thing and what looks like some 3d tools.. idunno.