Grimrock

Sol_HSA wrote:

DNACowboy wrote:Michael Cranford is one of the nicest developers I've ever met; subsequently I believe he'd jump at reviving the Bards Tale series.

They tried. They made it a third person action adventure that breaks the fourth wall constantly. It was rather unremarkable.

That was not as you think.

Fargo had the name (only the name) to use, and the game they made was a [deliberate] parody of RPG cliches. It wasn't meant as a Bard's Tale 4.

@DNACowboy: This would surprise me if it happened; I can't think that they are on good terms, given their history.

Mychaelh wrote:

lukesw wrote:Honestly, nothing quite like the last two Sir-Tech Wizardry games has been released since they were made.

There is also Wizards & Warriors, which was actually the competitor to Wizardry 8, done by David W. Bradley (Designer of Wizardry V, VI, VII):

somehow I missed that one ..... my favorite is still Wizardry 8

Isaac wrote:

Sol_HSA wrote:

DNACowboy wrote:Michael Cranford is one of the nicest developers I've ever met; subsequently I believe he'd jump at reviving the Bards Tale series.

They tried. They made it a third person action adventure that breaks the fourth wall constantly. It was rather unremarkable.

That was not as you think.
Fargo had the name (only the name) to use, and the game they made was a [deliberate] parody of RPG cliches. It wasn't meant as a Bard's Tale 4.

Well, the game actually came with virtual machine with which you can play the original bard's tales, so I'd call it pretty official.

Sol_HSA wrote:Well, the game actually came with virtual machine with which you can play the original bard's tales, so I'd call it pretty official.

That is the single reason that I bought it. [Official ~legal~ installers for Bard's Tale 1-3]

But no... It was not a sequel to Bard's Tale, and had nothing of the series ~except the name.

http://bardstale.poverellomedia.com/beyond.html

@DNACowboy http://www.rpgcodex.net/content.php?id=9163

I have purchased paper sorcerer, but I haven't played it yet. Too busy playing Legend of Grimrock 2

Mychaelh wrote: There is also Wizards & Warriors, which was actually the competitor to Wizardry 8, done by David W. Bradley (Designer of Wizardry V, VI, VII):

And now I must find this...

EDIT: Ouch. Reviews about the playability are not very forgiving on these...
http://www.amazon.com/Wizards-Warriors-PC/dp/B00004U55B

Bah, never mind those. Yes, there are a few interface and quest design quirks, but the game is still quite fun. In fact, it is the only game besides LoG II (that I know of) that really uses all three dimensions in its dungeons, for instance. If you like Grimrock and liked the old Wizardrys, there is no reason to skip this.

Anthony Xue wrote:Bah, never mind those. Yes, there are a few interface and quest design quirks, but the game is still quite fun. In fact, it is the only game besides LoG II (that I know of) that really uses all three dimensions in its dungeons, for instance. If you like Grimrock and liked the old Wizardrys, there is no reason to skip this.

Three Dimensions how ~exactly?

Do you mean optionally non-grid based?
Or jumping?

Not grid-based. Free movement with ascending and descending floors. Movement and combat is like Wizardry 8 (not like Wiz I - VII).
Even the UI has similarities with Wiz8.

Essential Patches here:
http://www.tgeweb.com/ironworks/wizards ... oads.shtml

Mychaelh wrote:Not grid-based. Free movement with ascending and descending floors. Movement and combat is like Wizardry 8 (not like Wiz I - VII).
Even the UI has similarities with Wiz8.

Essential Patches here:
http://www.tgeweb.com/ironworks/wizards ... oads.shtml

Stone Prophet and Menzoberranzan both have that; (and Menzo has levitation).