Grimrock 2 Beta 2.2.4

[Dr.Disaster]

I went back and forth between 2.1.18 and 2.2.4 to take a bunch of screenshots at specific locations to check on fps improvements. (1920x1080 fullscreen Triple Buffer all High)

1st column: beta party savegame from 2.1.9
2nd coloum: single wizard savegame from 2.1.18
3rd column: single farmer savegame from 2.2.4

For each column i loaded the same game right after game start, walked the same path and took pics at the locations listed.

Forgotten River

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31 15 3 22
2.1.18:	49 fps	51 fps	54 fps
2.2.4: 	53 fps	55 fps	59 fps

25 1 2 22
2.1.18:	48 fps	50 fps	53 fps
2.2.4: 	52 fps	53 fps	55 fps

10 1 2 22
2.1.18:	50 fps	52 fps	53 fps
2.2.4: 	55 fps	56 fps	59 fps

1 9 1 22
2.1.18:	45 fps	46 fps	49 fps
2.2.4: 	48 fps	49 fps	52 fps

Sleet Island

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30 12 3 11
2.1.18:	42 fps	43 fps	44 fps
2.2.4: 	45 fps	45 fps	47 fps

10 30 0 11
2.1.18:	43 fps	44 fps	45 fps
2.2.4: 	46 fps	46 fps	49 fps

Given that the locations are all outdoors with a lot to render the 5 to 10 percent overall fps improvement is very nice

[cromcrom]

Get and set party speed, and the defineCondition, OMG, this is great, thank you so very much

[Frenchie]

Dr. Disaster can you do the same on the PC? I would like to see results PC vs Mac. I also like to see what Petri's Mac goal is :

2.1.18 PC - 2.2.4 PC - 2.24 Mac - future 2.3 Mac (Petri's goal)

With this we can a rough estimate of what to expect of v2.3 and time when ready.

[Dr.Disaster]

Dr. Disaster can you do the same on the PC? I would like to see results PC vs Mac.

I got no Mac that is capable of running the game.

Nevertheless the only way to get a real comparison would be a Mac with Win/OSX-dual-boot option so the same hardware is in use.

EDIT
Now on the other hand it seems i might actually not need a Mac to run OS X.
Can anybody hand me an OSX 10.6 install disk image to try that?

[vlzvl]

Now on the other hand it seems i might actually not need a Mac to run OS X.
Can anybody hand me an OSX 10.6 install disk image to try that?

The one from iATKOS is the best i ever found (believe me, i have tried many). It can work either via VM or by direct installation, although is a Mountain Lion (10.8.x) 64bit and is mainly for Intel CPUs.

http://iatkos.me/forum/viewtopic.php?f=77&t=23105

You can download it from the site.

[Frenchie]

Or we should ask John to do the tests as he has both machines or Bootcamp. But required is OS X 10.7.5 according Petri's message at the Home page

[Dr.Disaster]

The one from iATKOS is the best i ever found (believe me, i have tried many). It can work either via VM or by direct installation, although is a Mountain Lion (10.8.x) 64bit and is mainly for Intel CPUs.

I'll give it a shot.
Lucky me got a spare HDD around so i only have to switch drives and don't need to go thru the 10.6.x install + upgrade hazzle.

EDIT
Either 10.8.x does not like my spare drive or PATA in general, it did not show up after the DVD booted.
I asked a pal to borrow me a SATA drive, maybe i have more luck with it.

[JohnWordsworth]

I have used a few Hackintosh systems in the past - while its a fun experiment, I wouldn't trust any benchmarking comparisons made on PC hardware running OSX. Hackintosh systems are quite finicky!

[Dr.Disaster]

Aye and that's why everyone interested should take the following numbers with several grains of salt.

I managed to get OSX running on my i7/GTX760 combo after using a spare SATA HDD. Nevertheless i had to update to 10.8.5 for nVidia Kepler support. The original 10.8.2 installation could not handle my Kepler-based GPU. In the end i used the nVidia Driver Bundle 313.01.04f01 after testing the original (generic) Apple Driver which is 2 fps slower in general.

(1920x1080 fullscreen Triple Buffer all High)

1st column: beta party savegame from 2.1.9
2nd coloum: single wizard savegame from 2.1.18
3rd column: single farmer savegame from 2.2.4

Forgotten River

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31 15 3 22
2.2.4 Win: 	53 fps	55 fps	59 fps
2.2.4 OSX: 	50 fps	52 fps	56 fps

25 1 2 22
2.2.4 Win: 	52 fps	53 fps	55 fps
2.2.4 OSX: 	46 fps	49 fps	51 fps

10 1 2 22
2.2.4 Win: 	55 fps	56 fps	59 fps
2.2.4 OSX: 	50 fps	52 fps	56 fps

1 9 1 22
2.2.4 Win: 	48 fps	49 fps	52 fps
2.2.4 OSX: 	30 fps	30 fps	30 fps (no idea what's wrong on this spot)

Sleet Island

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30 12 3 11
2.2.4 Win: 	45 fps	45 fps	47 fps
2.2.4 OSX: 	40 fps	41 fps	43 fps

10 30 0 11
2.2.4 Win: 	46 fps	46 fps	49 fps
2.2.4 OSX: 	38 fps	39 fps	39 fps

[Frenchie]

Considering an extra -2 fps for using a hackingtosh -7 fps (-5 fps on a real Mac) for all is acceptable, but we must determine why the higher differences happen, so Petri can optimize them

If a mac user with Bootcamp windows can do the same tests and has the same differences we can get an average extra fps decrease and an average mac result.