Unarmed Character: Rogue or Warrior?

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Alpha Stryke
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Unarmed Character: Rogue or Warrior?

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So, I want to play a martial arts master as one of my party members. A front line guy. Race will be Human, no compromise on this.

Should I go Rogue or Warrior?

With Warrior I can max out Unarmed and pump rest into Athletics. So, a Monk type master.
With Rogue I can max out Unarmed and pump the rest into Dodge. A Ninja type master.

Which is more powerful/effective on the frontline?

Also, does an unarmed attack count as a melee weapon, for the purpose of determining if it is affected by skills such as Assassination?

Lastly, what does 3 Point Strike do? I assume it is a chance for an insta kill...but need confirmation.

Thanks!
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Re: Unarmed Character: Rogue or Warrior?

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The Unarmed skill is the same for Fighters and Rogues so the "more effective" part has to come from either higher stats or other skills for higher Accuracy and/or Damage. Non-Headhunter Fighters can't really get ahead of the Rogue; they are basically the same. Now Headhunter Fighters can be more effective in the short- and middle-run depending on the number of skulls collected but in the long-run a Rogue building up Assassination outclasses even him.

EDIT
oops! Headhunter trait can be added to both Warrior and Rogue so no difference here. Yet at least the low/mid-lvl Assassination skills Reach Attack and Backstab work with Unarmed skill so the Rogue becomes more effective the more damage he does.
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Re: Unarmed Character: Rogue or Warrior?

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Doesn't assassination need melee weapons?
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Re: Unarmed Character: Rogue or Warrior?

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Unarmed is melee

Edit
Did a little test out of interest. It looks like the higher Assassination technics do really require a weapon. While Backstab and Reach Attack work with Unarmed attacks the special attacks Piercing and Master Assassin do not occure.

Edit 2
It does indeed seem that a Dagger is required to make full use of the Assassination skill. All other melee weapon types are limited to Reach Attack and Backstab as Unarmed is.
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Re: Unarmed Character: Rogue or Warrior?

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Interesting.

What about 3 Point Strike? What does that do?
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Re: Unarmed Character: Rogue or Warrior?

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Well? Anyone?
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Re: Unarmed Character: Rogue or Warrior?

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I believe it's just a big strong hit
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