[DEVELOPER DISCUSSION] One Room Round Robin 2 (SPOILERS)

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Re: [OPEN - SIGNUP / DISCUSS] One Room Round Robin 2!

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Hey!

Both rooms are terrific.

Mahric, I cannot imagine how much work you put in that and I don't understand how half of it is done within the LoG engine. Impressive, and finally an actual practical usage for the stairs "exploit"!
Ancylus, there's so much fun tricks...

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- No real comments on mahric's room, it's great. The last green marble was hard to find in the library, but doable I think. One question: the arena puzzle is a bit long. I didn't try to get the poor scavenger killed while in the 3rd or 4th part, but does it reset all over again, or do you restart from the current setup? If it does restart all the way, maybe it would be worth to put some code to start from the last "checkpoint" (if that's easily doable), as a clicking error for example could prove frustrating

- Ancylus, the sword and potion are items you get to keep for the rest of the dungeon, right? It seems as you would need the potion for something in the room though, as you need to get by the pits puzzle for that. Using both that and the sword, do you think it would be a good idea to plug this as a requirement to get to the last key, for example "Only the pure can pass" text and it lets you pass if all your chars are poisoned (keeping with the inversion theme), this way you have to poison yourself. Just a suggestion.

- Also, maybe think of a hint for the hints. The outside changing text is a fantastic idea, but so easy to miss on. I only noticed it because I looked at the script entities, I never would have thought of going back down the stairs during the room solving, or even reading again the text after completing the room.
I've also fixed all the clipping and other issues with The cube's room. The puzzle to get to the lower secret level is now more involved and uses his magic "fixed" torches.

I looked at the clipping in JW's room, but I wasn't sure how to fix it exactly. I guess we would need to spawn the pit dynamically, I saw somewhere that you were to not add pits and trap doors in script, but I never had a problem with it. I just wasn't sure where in his scripts was the trigger to change the floor to a pit and I didn't want to mess up something.

Didn't notice clipping in mahric's room... but you're probably right.

For light leaks, there are some in the central area, I need to model a small very flat pillar to put where we don't want big pillars.

Added a first treasure room on the lowest level, with a message hinting to how swirl keys are to be used. There's nothing in the rooms, feel free to put things there, or we can look at that later when balancing out.

Fixed a few things with my level 5 fire puzzle, it now plays sounds and prints to hud when fireballs hit receptors, it's easier to understand that way.

Ok. So file is again on dropbox, this time for aaneton. I'll also send it to the cube so that he can approve the changes/scripting improvements to his room.

EDIT: Oh, and by the way, for the lightTracker and for the cube's room, I needed a timer. So all the way up on level 1 in the center, there's a script entity named coreScript, in which there is a function coreTimer. That function ticks at every 0.25s no matter what level you are on, so if you want something that does that, just plugin a call to your scripts from there. This way we can avoid multiplication of timers (let's leave multiplication of things to ole' Jesus...).
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Re: [OPEN - SIGNUP / DISCUSS] One Room Round Robin 2!

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Hey, are we going in any particular order? Number-wise, it looks like I should be up soon, but it doesn't look like it's strictly going by numbers.

Also, can I get a copy of the dungeon file to start playing with?
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Billick wrote:Hey, are we going in any particular order? Number-wise, it looks like I should be up soon, but it doesn't look like it's strictly going by numbers.

Also, can I get a copy of the dungeon file to start playing with?
We're more or less going in order, but as a few people had their room completed, we jumped ahead to them so that they can put it in instead of it dusting away on their HD and they forget how it actually worked when it came to their turn... ;)

The current order the main file is going to next is:

#9 aaneton (completed room, has to merge it)
#10 Ryeath_Greystalk (completed room, has to merge it)
#2 spiderfighter
#5 drakkan
#6 billick
#8 neikun

unless someone comes up with a ready room meanwhile...

I'll happily send you the latest version of the file to play with, though! 8-)
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Re: [OPEN - SIGNUP / DISCUSS] One Room Round Robin 2!

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I have an odd question / request.

My room only takes up one floor, leaving the upper and lower level open. My daughter, who is 8, loves playing around on the editor (she really loves Leki's snail king), and was asking me if she could do a room. Would anyone be opposed to me letting her do something with one of my floors? It would only be stock editor stuff, probably a couple door and a few snails, and only accessible via my room, and I would probably put a note explaining it.

That would leave one of my floors available for community use.

Thanks
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Re: [OPEN - SIGNUP / DISCUSS] One Room Round Robin 2!

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Hi,
as I got the file from Diarmuid I assumed it was my turn.
Anyway I have now uploaded the file with my room included to dropbox called ORRR_from_aaneton.zip
Last edited by aaneton on Wed May 01, 2013 8:37 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: [OPEN - SIGNUP / DISCUSS] One Room Round Robin 2!

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Amazing! Well, Ryeath_Greystalk, it's all yours, and your daughter of course... this is so adorable! My boy is 3y old, still a long time before he can design dungeons... :D ;)
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Re: [OPEN - SIGNUP / DISCUSS] One Room Round Robin 2!

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I found a non-show-stopping bug (it just leaves a timer running, players won't notice and it won't affect completion) I wanted to fix it anyway so I uploaded ORRR_from_aaneton_fixed.zip please use that instead, however if work for Ryeath_Greystalk as already started I can fix it afterwards aswell.
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Re: [OPEN - SIGNUP / DISCUSS] One Room Round Robin 2!

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Diarmuid wrote:
Billick wrote:Hey, are we going in any particular order? Number-wise, it looks like I should be up soon, but it doesn't look like it's strictly going by numbers.

Also, can I get a copy of the dungeon file to start playing with?
We're more or less going in order, but as a few people had their room completed, we jumped ahead to them so that they can put it in instead of it dusting away on their HD and they forget how it actually worked when it came to their turn... ;)

The current order the main file is going to next is:

#9 aaneton (completed room, has to merge it)
#10 Ryeath_Greystalk (completed room, has to merge it)
#2 spiderfighter
#5 drakkan
#6 billick
#8 neikun

unless someone comes up with a ready room meanwhile...

I'll happily send you the latest version of the file to play with, though! 8-)
Thanks, got your PM!
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Re: [OPEN - SIGNUP / DISCUSS] One Room Round Robin 2!

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I started playing other people rooms, but didn't get far I found a bug in JohnWordsworth room.
If you pickup the throwing dagger, equip and throw it using attack (against the spirit), the game will crash.
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Re: [OPEN - SIGNUP / DISCUSS] One Room Round Robin 2!

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I've created a file called bugs.txt to dropbox, where we can update found bugs.
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