[MOD] Door on floor placement

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Re: [MOD] Door on floor placement

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The breakable spider nets look very nice. I've just integrated them Eye of the Beholder: Waterdeep sewers. And added you to the list of contributors, of course. I hope you don't mind.

One thing that bothers me is that I don't know how to add already broken net. The original EOB1, level 4 has some nets that are broken from the beginning. I tried to tweak defineObject for it to have health zero, but this just made the net indestructible. Any suggestions?

Another question is about size: giant spider web textures (DDS format) are 5MB each. How can I compress or make them smaller? I've installed dds plug-in for gimp and tried to write it in compressed format, but it didn't work.
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Re: [MOD] Door on floor placement

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thomson wrote:The breakable spider nets look very nice. I've just integrated them Eye of the Beholder: Waterdeep sewers. And added you to the list of contributors, of course. I hope you don't mind.

One thing that bothers me is that I don't know how to add already broken net. The original EOB1, level 4 has some nets that are broken from the beginning. I tried to tweak defineObject for it to have health zero, but this just made the net indestructible. Any suggestions?

Another question is about size: giant spider web textures (DDS format) are 5MB each. How can I compress or make them smaller? I've installed dds plug-in for gimp and tried to write it in compressed format, but it didn't work.
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I add a verion 1.3 with the correction

--modify size files .dds of the giant spider web
--add the giant spider web broken
download v.1.3.zip in dropbox
download v.1.3.zip in nexusmod

The script for the giant spider web broken is

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defineObject{
	name = "giant_spider_web_broken",
	class = "Decoration",
	model = "mod_assets/models/env/giant_spider_web_broken.fbx",
	placement = "floor",
	replacesFloor = false,
	editorIcon = 128,
}
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Re: [MOD] Door on floor placement

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montagneyaya wrote:I add a verion 1.3 with the correction
Thanks! I've included updated version in waterdeep sewers.
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Re: [MOD] Door on floor placement

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I grabbed the spiderweb for use in my dungeon, but I found something odd with it. Light doesn't seem to affect it. Even when it's pitch black the web is still perfectly visible, even at a very long distance. As a result it looks pretty weird when there's no light source near it.
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Re: [MOD] Door on floor placement

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Curiously, spider webs of the original game do the same weird effect. Probably some limitation on alpha blended materials ? I'm also interested in the gigantic EOB style webs! (thanks montagneyaya)
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Re: [MOD] Door on floor placement

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You're right. It's less jarring since they're much smaller, though. I wonder if it's an oversigt by AH or intentional.
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Re: [MOD] Door on floor placement

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Ixnatifual wrote:You're right. It's less jarring since they're much smaller, though. I wonder if it's an oversigt by AH or intentional.
That's how transparency is handled in the Grimrock engine unfortunately. Only the 'opaque' address mode doesn't have this effect. So you either have all-or-nothing transparency or you'll have this glow effect. It's a bit of a shame, as many things can't be done properly because of it (see spiderwebs). I'm not a programmer, but in ES games there are issues with fading transparency as well, so it seems to be hard to make it work without any drawbacks.
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Re: [MOD] Door on floor placement

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That's a damn shame. The big web model looks awesome but that particular "feature" makes me not want to use it. Maybe if I just make sure there's a ceiling light or some other permanent light source nearby wherever I use it...
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