Hardware crash loses keys

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Mameluk wrote:Never, ever in my life have I used such things.
Really? You must be relatively new to this whole email thing? It wasn't THAT long ago that there weren't really server based options for average home users.

Even services like Hotmail and Yahoo webmail used to have such tiny mailbox sizes when they were new that you had to constantly purge the server side stuff.
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Kids these days :)
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Mameluk
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jfunk wrote:You must be relatively new to this whole email thing?
No sir, the ancient history of emails happens to not be in my field of expertise. You can go back to your rocker now.
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Mameluk wrote:But isn't the email stored on the providers servers, which is accessible from any location as long as you have an internet connection, unless you go to the lengths to save the email on your hard drive and delete the mail from your email account. Why would anyone do that?
I use Outlook, when I open it, all mail is downloaded into it,(and then deleted from the email server) should my PC crash and I hadn't done a backup I to would lose my email. I don't think is that unusual.

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Darklord wrote:I use Outlook, when I open it, all mail is downloaded into it,(and then deleted from the email server) should my PC crash and I hadn't done a backup I to would lose my email. I don't think is that unusual.

Daniel.
It WASN'T unusual, several years ago. The fact that you continue to use this model is mind boggling though. So many free cloud based options out there, why would you still do this on purpose?
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POP3 email made sense back when we weren't always connected and mail server accounts had limited space. You had your email client automatically dial-up with the modem, fetch the mail, then disconnect so you could read your mail offline.

Nowadays with broadband, 3G, and public WiFi, it makes much more sense to use IMAP or webmail.

But to each his own, of course. :)
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cokebottle wrote:POP3 email made sense back when we weren't always connected and mail server accounts had limited space. You had your email client automatically dial-up with the modem, fetch the mail, then disconnect so you could read your mail offline.

Nowadays with broadband, 3G, and public WiFi, it makes much more sense to use IMAP or webmail.

But to each his own, of course. :)
And you can still do it that way if you prefer. You can POP your mail from most free email providers. But you don't have to delete the mail on the server when you do so.

If you're still using some old ISP account with limited space that you don't want to get rid of for some reason, you can still use a new cloud based service to POP that mail into so you have it backed up somewhere besides your local hardware.

Bottom line is free, permanent backup of all your email is available with a few mouse clicks today. It's far easier than backing up your documents or pictures. If you're not taking advantage of this fact, you're almost literally "asking for it".
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I don't know enough about your system and the actual error,
maybe you could be more precise about that.

I assume something boot related went wrong / doesn't work any more, and now you don't have access to your Linux system anymore.
I don't know which mail program you are using but usually there is a folder in your home directory in which your mail program stores your configuration and all mail.
In Ubuntu that folders name can be starting with a dot which makes your graphical file system browser ignore the file as sort of "hidden" unless you tell it not to.
But you really only need access to that folder, and that is possible even if the system itself is defunct.

I'd suggest you find out what mail program you are using and look up a way to restore mail for that particular mail client.
Also, I'm sure there is also a ton of guides out there on how to access files on a broken wubi install, as you are sure not the only person with such a problem.

Even if you can't boot at all from that machine, you could possibly still use an ubuntu live disk or even plug your hard drive into another pc to retrieve data.

Good luck!
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jfunk wrote: It WASN'T unusual, several years ago. The fact that you continue to use this model is mind boggling though. So many free cloud based options out there, why would you still do this on purpose?
Good question! Well it works and I'm happy with it. :)

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Darklord wrote:Well it works and I'm happy with it. :)
That will all change the second that HD dies or you need to switch to a new computer for some other reason and have any email you'd like to retain. Setting up Outlook or any other mail client to work via IMAP should be painless, and there's virtually no reason not to do so unless your mail provider has insane space limitations.
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