Please fix the shadow color banding problem. Thank you. :)

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Yeah. I can see it on my 6-bit HP panel.

And on an 8-bit Dell 2405 -- IF i crank the brightness beyond acceptable levels.

I'm ok with this.
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Please don't be calling Girmrock's awesome lovely Doom-esque lighting and distant shading/fading a problem! :x
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Curunir wrote:Please don't be calling Girmrock's awesome lovely Doom-esque lighting and distant shading/fading a problem! :x
I didn't even said that.
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Can't tell if playing daft or really clueless :roll:

"fix the shadow color banding problem"
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Let's settle down guys. No need to attack other players.
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Curunir wrote:Can't tell if playing daft or really clueless :roll:

"fix the shadow color banding problem"
That banding effect is something I experiment too, and he is just commenting it in the forum to know if it is a glitch, a simple gamma or monitor bright tweaking or a problem with some GPU configs. If It is not commented, devs can not answer.

What is wrong with it?
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Hey, Bluewave256, I got curious so I tried it for myself. I raised my brightness settings and this color banding showed.

To my experience, it's just a matter of lowering your brightness until the really shadowed parts look almost pitch black. That's the way the game looks on my monitor. I can't show you a screenshot because, well, it would be on your monitor on your brightness settings.

Try it and see if it works for you too.
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Dynosaulo wrote:Hey, Bluewave256, I got curious so I tried it for myself. I raised my brightness settings and this color banding showed.

To my experience, it's just a matter of lowering your brightness until the really shadowed parts look almost pitch black. That's the way the game looks on my monitor. I can't show you a screenshot because, well, it would be on your monitor on your brightness settings.

Try it and see if it works for you too.
In my case Lowering brightness appears to do the job. Shadows are showing more as intended.
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I've registered just to revive this thread because I have something new to contribute.

I just started playing Grimrock and I'm suffering from the same issue as the OP (and I use AMD, so it's not OP's NVIDIA). My graphics drivers are up to date. I've even tried beta drivers and 2yo drivers but the problem (and "solution") is the same with each.

I also know it's not a monitor problem, which is why I'm here. I found if I change the Rendering Quality in-game from High to Low, the color problem is gone! Unfortunately, other nice visual effects are also gone, so it's not really a solution.

I took 2 screenshots from the same location with different settings and saved them as lossless .png for good measure:

Rendering Quality: "High"
Image

Rendering Quality: "Low"
Image

If you can't see the difference in these screenshots, I daresay your monitor need a tweak/upgrade.

Still, there are other ways to observe the differences in these images, if you want:
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The file size of the "Low" setting image (nice coloring) is almost double the file size of the "High" setting image (poor coloring). They were both saved with the exact same settings, but "Low" has more color information.

Use photo editing software like Photoshop to increase brightness of both images by 150 in Photoshop (don't use Legacy).

Use something like AHK's Window Spy to read color values under your cursor. Hover across the dark areas of each image. "High" has more flat black (0x000000) because it fails to render dark gradients, causing the color values jump more from area to area (like 0x000000 to 0x000008). Try the same with "Low" and the color values change more gradually.
Lowering monitor brightness is a not a good solution here. If you make dark blue (0x000008) appear as one step away from black (0x000000), you're missing out on 87.5% of the color that should be there.

I hope this gets fixed, but I'm afraid I can't wait for that. I really need to get out of this tower - half way there!
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grim_stoner wrote:I also know it's not a monitor problem, which is why I'm here. I found if I change the Rendering Quality in-game from High to Low, the color problem is gone! Unfortunately, other nice visual effects are also gone, so it's not really a solution.

I took 2 screenshots from the same location with different settings and saved them as lossless .png for good measure:
SpoilerShow
Rendering Quality: "High"
Image

Rendering Quality: "Low"
Image
If you can't see the difference in these screenshots, I daresay your monitor need a tweak/upgrade.
If Rendering Quality "High" produces results on your end that are even worse then Rendering Quality "Low" it's neither the game nor any monitor. It's either your gfx card failing the game's hardware requirements or a faulty system installation i.e. bad, missing or old driver/direct x/visual c++ redistributable.

I remade your pic in the editor and took my own screen shots:

Rendering Quality: "High"
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/f ... =309420901

Rendering Quality: "Low"
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/f ... =309420975
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