Grimrock

mages require LESS clicking per monster than any other class. I have a 4 mage party in a middle of the game - they level EVERYTHING up to including crabs in one volley of fireballs. Its the most calm and relaxed clicking party I tried so far. In case of the tanking mage with second row of archers I ...

Did you try that mage tank with hardcore mode? Whats you second front guy?

You first mage tank does not have enough levels to enchant arrows, why is that? dont you think its wasteful, I thought that having 2 archers and a mage kinda implies enchating.

If you have 2 mages 2 archers you have all ranged weapon. With ranged weapon you can play without taking any damage most of the time.

Why tank damage if you can kill most of mobs in one volley, and if there are more than one you can kite or 2x2.

Why do you even need a tank with mages?

my 4 mage party just turns everything it sees in ashes or kites multiple enemies without being hit. Well you get a hit time to time, but you can survive that without any armor at all from what i see.

And I think you are overestimating value of pure on paper END GAME output and discounting all the value from start mid game, protection and health gain from armor skills and ability switch front and last rows of chars around as I do.

MMM lets see you have say 100 dps and 100 HP

I have 60dps and 400 HP

Who has better chances?

And why again I have crappy damage? My front damage is way more than any of you front tanks. And your back skilled archers are better. In total party damage output is not that different.

You are saying, that if IM cornered with 4 FULL TANKS I have LESS chances that you maxed dps glass canon party?

Now who is trolling here?

This is exactly why DPS is less important than burst damage. And my burst damage is on the same level as lvled archers.

Thank you that you come to the same conclusion. If you can't stand still you can't have full dps your archery skill gives you.

I'm glad that my apparent mental problems become the main discussion point. However, I already address the point of "wasting" ammo. I'm not wasting ammo, my per ammo start game damage is pretty much the same as your lvl 50 archer damage. "Favoring protection for defense rather than pu...

Some people are very smart, but they can't read well. When you have your lvl 50 archer, I have lvl 50 armor which shoots slower. When my first row is low on HP I can bring anyone from back to front and still have full tank and my damage does not decrease since they are all ranged If ammo is not an i...